Is the price difference a canadian thing? In continental Europe there almost the same price.
Re: Siemens
Of course it would be better to be not dependant on single countries, especially if they are autocratic. But let's not kid ourselves, we already are in almost every technical industry. When looking at e.g. the smartphone supply chain, the picture is even more bleak than renewable energy hardware.
I think you know all this, but a caveat in this form would have been great before calling out Siemens.
Re: Antitrust
The current Antitrust regime will not work with how the tech giants are set up. Here's a piece arguing that it would be fine if Big Tech stays as entrenched as it currently is, as long as it's allowing (or have to allow by law) others to stand on its shoulders.
I know part of it is Canadian because the Kia is getting an EV rebate that the Model Y isn't (because it's above the cutoff price point), but even without that it would still be more expensive.
re: Siemens
I can't talk about every story in every story, so of course there are other dependencies. But I think power grid infrastructure is particularly foundational to a society. Nothing else works without it, it literally is life-supporting and life-giving. Smartphones are a problem, but energy makes the world go round.
Siemens was just en entry point into the story, I also mention GE, Vestas, solar power, lithium batteries, etc. I'm not blaming them specifically, just saying the current dynamic is dangerous ("it works until it doesn't").
re: Antitrust
That's an interesting solution. In practice, it's difficult because making it so 3rd parties can inter-operate is often a way to largely freeze or slow down innovation (ie. to have stable APIs you can't be changing them all the time, and if you're changing them all the time third parties can't build on them). I'm sure there can be interesting things to do in that direction, but it's not simple or without trade-offs.
"There are some things I like better about the Model Y and some things I like better about the EV6, but with the Y being $20k CAD more expensive here, I feel like the EV6 meets my family’s needs while being a better value."
Kia EV6 looks sharp, congratulations! I am surprised to hear that is cheaper than a comparable Y. We just bought a Model 3 and we love it. We had looked at the Ys as well, Tesla, at least in the US, is darn near the cheapest new car one can buy right now.
We got the EV6 AWD Long-range battery with GT-Line 1 package, and compared to the long range AWD Model Y, it's about 20k CAD less if you take into account govt incentives (the EV6 gets more because the Y goes above a cutoff point).
The problem with the EV6 is finding one to buy! At some point the new plant in Georgia will come online and that should help, but right now the waiting lists are very long and there isn't much supply..
But having done a ton of research (there are lots of great Youtube channels with real world detailed reviews), it looks like a very good vehicle.
Both South Korean big brands have improved so much over the past 10-15 years, very impressive. Looks like they are compounding improvement faster than most other brands.
Re: Kia
Is the price difference a canadian thing? In continental Europe there almost the same price.
Re: Siemens
Of course it would be better to be not dependant on single countries, especially if they are autocratic. But let's not kid ourselves, we already are in almost every technical industry. When looking at e.g. the smartphone supply chain, the picture is even more bleak than renewable energy hardware.
I think you know all this, but a caveat in this form would have been great before calling out Siemens.
Re: Antitrust
The current Antitrust regime will not work with how the tech giants are set up. Here's a piece arguing that it would be fine if Big Tech stays as entrenched as it currently is, as long as it's allowing (or have to allow by law) others to stand on its shoulders.
Skip to the part explaining "Platform Neutrality" in the end: https://medium.com/hyperlinked/platform-economies-need-more-platform-neutrality-less-break-up-a5e3d074c357
Re: Kia
I know part of it is Canadian because the Kia is getting an EV rebate that the Model Y isn't (because it's above the cutoff price point), but even without that it would still be more expensive.
re: Siemens
I can't talk about every story in every story, so of course there are other dependencies. But I think power grid infrastructure is particularly foundational to a society. Nothing else works without it, it literally is life-supporting and life-giving. Smartphones are a problem, but energy makes the world go round.
Siemens was just en entry point into the story, I also mention GE, Vestas, solar power, lithium batteries, etc. I'm not blaming them specifically, just saying the current dynamic is dangerous ("it works until it doesn't").
re: Antitrust
That's an interesting solution. In practice, it's difficult because making it so 3rd parties can inter-operate is often a way to largely freeze or slow down innovation (ie. to have stable APIs you can't be changing them all the time, and if you're changing them all the time third parties can't build on them). I'm sure there can be interesting things to do in that direction, but it's not simple or without trade-offs.
"There are some things I like better about the Model Y and some things I like better about the EV6, but with the Y being $20k CAD more expensive here, I feel like the EV6 meets my family’s needs while being a better value."
Kia EV6 looks sharp, congratulations! I am surprised to hear that is cheaper than a comparable Y. We just bought a Model 3 and we love it. We had looked at the Ys as well, Tesla, at least in the US, is darn near the cheapest new car one can buy right now.
We got the EV6 AWD Long-range battery with GT-Line 1 package, and compared to the long range AWD Model Y, it's about 20k CAD less if you take into account govt incentives (the EV6 gets more because the Y goes above a cutoff point).
The problem with the EV6 is finding one to buy! At some point the new plant in Georgia will come online and that should help, but right now the waiting lists are very long and there isn't much supply..
But having done a ton of research (there are lots of great Youtube channels with real world detailed reviews), it looks like a very good vehicle.
I have heard great things about Kias, plus the latest ones look great. I'm sure you'll love it.
Both South Korean big brands have improved so much over the past 10-15 years, very impressive. Looks like they are compounding improvement faster than most other brands.